[Phoronix] ZFS Still Trying To Compete With EXT4 & Btrfs On Linux
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Erick El-Idris Ardhyaska Sorry, ZFS
22 hours ago · Like
Dimas Ahmad Eka Putra ZFS rada lemot nih mas. saya coba di glusterfs yang waktu itu saya tanyain hehe.
22 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa ZFS di unix (BSD/solaris) atau di linux?
21 hours ago · Like
Dimas Ahmad Eka Putra di linux dong, hehe. belum bagus kali ya supportnya. saya balik lagi deh ke ext.
21 hours ago · Like
Trias Mukti Kuncoro mungkin karena user-space, yah namanya juga FS 'cangkokan'
21 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa Hasil dari beberapa benchmarking yang dilakukan #phoronix memang menunjukkan demikian pak Dimas Ahmad Eka Putra. Apalagi sebelum yang ini, benchmarking dilakukan di atas FUSE.
Kalau yang ini sudah native pak Trias Mukti Kuncoro. Sebelum ini pakai FUSE.
21 hours ago · Like · 1
Trias Mukti Kuncoro wah, saya malah baru tau kalau sudah native
21 hours ago · Like
Dimas Ahmad Eka Putra Tapi saya kurang paham nih mas, sebenarnya kalau untuk data yang cukup besar (bertera-tera, terdistribusi) bagusnya zfs atau bisa pake yang standar saja dan dibawah lvm?
21 hours ago · Like
Trias Mukti Kuncoro untuk skalabilitas, XFS mumpuni tuk nandingi ZFS
21 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa Kalau saya lebih memilih ZFS karena sudah jadi satu semua untuk manajemen storage/disk/volume, dan filesystem.
21 hours ago · Like
Trias Mukti Kuncoro dulu sempat mo make, tapi rekomendasi sistem 64 bit, kalau maksa 32 bit perlu passing parameter kernel buat manajemen memori. Ga tau kalau sekarang, mungkin sudah diatasi persoalan gitu. Baca2 dulu
21 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa Yang paling saya sukai ya fitur manajemen volume-nya itu. nambah/kurangi harddisk, cuma pakai satu baris perintah: zpool add atau zpool detach
Yang kedua gosok-menggosok filesystem: zpool scrub.
21 hours ago · Edited · Like
Trias Mukti Kuncoro kalo ga salah waktu install sabayon ada pilihan ZFS, dicek dulu
20 hours ago · Like
Dimas Ahmad Eka Putra yang bikin saya tertarik sama zfs sih memang manajemennya, simple banget
20 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa Jadi pingin benchmark ZFS di FreeBSD
20 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa Dari dokumentasi FreeBSD soal ZFS:
21.2.1.1. Memory
At a bare minimum, the total system memory should be at least one gigabyte. The amount of recommended RAM depends upon the size of the pool and the ZFS features which are used. A general rule of thumb is 1GB of RAM for every 1TB of storage. If the deduplication feature is used, a general rule of thumb is 5GB of RAM per TB of storage to be deduplicated. While some users successfully use ZFS with less RAM, it is possible that when the system is under heavy load, it may panic due to memory exhaustion. Further tuning may be required for systems with less than the recommended RAM requirements.
20 hours ago · Like · 1
Trias Mukti Kuncoro saya cek di konfigurasi kernel sabayon 3.10.6 ga ada ZFS, mungkin kernel yang buat server.
1.5 Why should I use a 64-bit system?
You are strongly encouraged to use a 64-bit kernel. At the moment zfs will build in a 32-bit environment but will not run stably.
In the Solaris kernel it is common practice to make heavy use of the virtual address space because it is designed to work well. However, in the Linux kernel most memory is addressed with a physical address and use of the virtual address space is strongly discouraged. This is particularly true on 32-bit arches where the virtual address space is limited to roughly 100MiB by default. Using the virtual address space on 64-bit Linux kernels is also discouraged. But in this case the address space is so much larger than physical memory it is not as much of an issue.
If you are bumping up against the virtual memory limit you will see the following message in your system logs. You can increase the virtual address size with the boot option vmalloc=512M.
vmap allocation for size 4198400 failed: use vmalloc=<size> to increase size.
However, even after making this change your system will likely not be entirely stable. Proper support for 32-bit systems is contingent upon the zfs code being weaned off its dependence on virtual memory. This will take some time to do correctly but it is planned for the Linux port. This change is also expected to improve how efficiently zfs utilizes the systems memory. And can be further leveraged to allow tighter integration with the standard Linux VM mechanisms.
http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html#WhyShouldIUseA64BitSystem
1.5 Why should I use a 64-bit system? - ZFS on Linux zfsonlinux.org
ZFS on Linux FAQ.
20 hours ago · Like · Remove Preview
Dimas Ahmad Eka Putra iya dong server pakenya ya 64bit biar 'aman' heheh
20 hours ago · Like
Trias Mukti Kuncoro hmm.. kayaknya nunggu btrfs aja, meski sebuah penantian panjang
20 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa wekekekekekeke. untung mesin2 saya pakai freebsd 64-bit semua
20 hours ago · Like
Xion Alexander zfs itu apa ya? semacem file system gitu kah?
19 hours ago via mobile · Like
Widya Walesa yup
19 hours ago · Like
Xion Alexander z nya itu apa ya?
19 hours ago via mobile · Like
Ananda Putra Syafa'at alasan tertentu saya seneng zfs kestabilan nya itu .. meski sangat sederhana tapi powerfull kalo saya boleh sandang sedikit dengan ext4 yg sering bermasalah ketimbang satu keluarganyaa yaitu ext3 tapi tetep zfs bagus .. oh ya saya sempet mau nyoba ReiserFS dan brtfs tapi belom menemukan kelebihanya apa ada yg tau
19 hours ago via mobile · Like
Widya Walesa Xion Alexander: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#History
ZFS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org
ZFS is a combined file system and logical volume manager designed by Sun Microsy...See More
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Xion Alexander thx
19 hours ago via mobile · Like
Erick El-Idris Ardhyaska ZSH bagusnya buat server. Te o pe be ge te :b
4 hours ago · Like
Ananda Putra Syafa'at ^sepertinya yg diatas ini lagi ngelantur
2 hours ago via mobile · Like
Erick El-Idris Ardhyaska Sorry, ZFS
22 hours ago · Like
Dimas Ahmad Eka Putra ZFS rada lemot nih mas. saya coba di glusterfs yang waktu itu saya tanyain hehe.
22 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa ZFS di unix (BSD/solaris) atau di linux?
21 hours ago · Like
Dimas Ahmad Eka Putra di linux dong, hehe. belum bagus kali ya supportnya. saya balik lagi deh ke ext.
21 hours ago · Like
Trias Mukti Kuncoro mungkin karena user-space, yah namanya juga FS 'cangkokan'
21 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa Hasil dari beberapa benchmarking yang dilakukan #phoronix memang menunjukkan demikian pak Dimas Ahmad Eka Putra. Apalagi sebelum yang ini, benchmarking dilakukan di atas FUSE.
Kalau yang ini sudah native pak Trias Mukti Kuncoro. Sebelum ini pakai FUSE.
21 hours ago · Like · 1
Trias Mukti Kuncoro wah, saya malah baru tau kalau sudah native
21 hours ago · Like
Dimas Ahmad Eka Putra Tapi saya kurang paham nih mas, sebenarnya kalau untuk data yang cukup besar (bertera-tera, terdistribusi) bagusnya zfs atau bisa pake yang standar saja dan dibawah lvm?
21 hours ago · Like
Trias Mukti Kuncoro untuk skalabilitas, XFS mumpuni tuk nandingi ZFS
21 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa Kalau saya lebih memilih ZFS karena sudah jadi satu semua untuk manajemen storage/disk/volume, dan filesystem.
21 hours ago · Like
Trias Mukti Kuncoro dulu sempat mo make, tapi rekomendasi sistem 64 bit, kalau maksa 32 bit perlu passing parameter kernel buat manajemen memori. Ga tau kalau sekarang, mungkin sudah diatasi persoalan gitu. Baca2 dulu
21 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa Yang paling saya sukai ya fitur manajemen volume-nya itu. nambah/kurangi harddisk, cuma pakai satu baris perintah: zpool add atau zpool detach
Yang kedua gosok-menggosok filesystem: zpool scrub.
21 hours ago · Edited · Like
Trias Mukti Kuncoro kalo ga salah waktu install sabayon ada pilihan ZFS, dicek dulu
20 hours ago · Like
Dimas Ahmad Eka Putra yang bikin saya tertarik sama zfs sih memang manajemennya, simple banget
20 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa Jadi pingin benchmark ZFS di FreeBSD
20 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa Dari dokumentasi FreeBSD soal ZFS:
21.2.1.1. Memory
At a bare minimum, the total system memory should be at least one gigabyte. The amount of recommended RAM depends upon the size of the pool and the ZFS features which are used. A general rule of thumb is 1GB of RAM for every 1TB of storage. If the deduplication feature is used, a general rule of thumb is 5GB of RAM per TB of storage to be deduplicated. While some users successfully use ZFS with less RAM, it is possible that when the system is under heavy load, it may panic due to memory exhaustion. Further tuning may be required for systems with less than the recommended RAM requirements.
20 hours ago · Like · 1
Trias Mukti Kuncoro saya cek di konfigurasi kernel sabayon 3.10.6 ga ada ZFS, mungkin kernel yang buat server.
1.5 Why should I use a 64-bit system?
You are strongly encouraged to use a 64-bit kernel. At the moment zfs will build in a 32-bit environment but will not run stably.
In the Solaris kernel it is common practice to make heavy use of the virtual address space because it is designed to work well. However, in the Linux kernel most memory is addressed with a physical address and use of the virtual address space is strongly discouraged. This is particularly true on 32-bit arches where the virtual address space is limited to roughly 100MiB by default. Using the virtual address space on 64-bit Linux kernels is also discouraged. But in this case the address space is so much larger than physical memory it is not as much of an issue.
If you are bumping up against the virtual memory limit you will see the following message in your system logs. You can increase the virtual address size with the boot option vmalloc=512M.
vmap allocation for size 4198400 failed: use vmalloc=<size> to increase size.
However, even after making this change your system will likely not be entirely stable. Proper support for 32-bit systems is contingent upon the zfs code being weaned off its dependence on virtual memory. This will take some time to do correctly but it is planned for the Linux port. This change is also expected to improve how efficiently zfs utilizes the systems memory. And can be further leveraged to allow tighter integration with the standard Linux VM mechanisms.
http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html#WhyShouldIUseA64BitSystem
1.5 Why should I use a 64-bit system? - ZFS on Linux zfsonlinux.org
ZFS on Linux FAQ.
20 hours ago · Like · Remove Preview
Dimas Ahmad Eka Putra iya dong server pakenya ya 64bit biar 'aman' heheh
20 hours ago · Like
Trias Mukti Kuncoro hmm.. kayaknya nunggu btrfs aja, meski sebuah penantian panjang
20 hours ago · Like
Widya Walesa wekekekekekeke. untung mesin2 saya pakai freebsd 64-bit semua
20 hours ago · Like
Xion Alexander zfs itu apa ya? semacem file system gitu kah?
19 hours ago via mobile · Like
Widya Walesa yup
19 hours ago · Like
Xion Alexander z nya itu apa ya?
19 hours ago via mobile · Like
Ananda Putra Syafa'at alasan tertentu saya seneng zfs kestabilan nya itu .. meski sangat sederhana tapi powerfull kalo saya boleh sandang sedikit dengan ext4 yg sering bermasalah ketimbang satu keluarganyaa yaitu ext3 tapi tetep zfs bagus .. oh ya saya sempet mau nyoba ReiserFS dan brtfs tapi belom menemukan kelebihanya apa ada yg tau
19 hours ago via mobile · Like
Widya Walesa Xion Alexander: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#History
ZFS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org
ZFS is a combined file system and logical volume manager designed by Sun Microsy...See More
19 hours ago · Like · Remove Preview
Xion Alexander thx
19 hours ago via mobile · Like
Erick El-Idris Ardhyaska ZSH bagusnya buat server. Te o pe be ge te :b
4 hours ago · Like
Ananda Putra Syafa'at ^sepertinya yg diatas ini lagi ngelantur
2 hours ago via mobile · Like
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